she clearly is someone who much like chuck todd, their work ethic is very high and they have a very high motor, but i do think it's important to remember as she comes to the end of her term as secretary of state, you know, we're so quick to jump in, and i'll put myself in this category to jump in the 2016 talks. i actually think she is honest when she says i need some time to just decompress. >> that was before the onous. >> that's before that. this bears it out. this is someone who has pushed herself relentlessly without her life, but i would say the last four years and put the two years before that when she was running for president, this is someone who for the last six years has been going nonstop for the last six years nonstop on planes. i guess we're looking at 18 months to two years before she does really make a decision about what she wants to do, whether it's run for president or do something else. >> the expectation now that secretary of states travel, and it really is sort of more recent thing going back to the 1990s with secretary albright and then secretary rice and now secre